There is No ‘T’ in Mountain.

July 25, 2006 – 5:35 pm

Let me refer you to a conversation I once had with a girl (yes, I talk about this crap with girls):

Me: The moun’ins are nice.
Girl: It isn’t ‘moun’in,’ it’s mountain.
Me: It doesn’t matter.
Girl: There is a ‘t’ there. Pronounce it.
Me: No, there isn’t a ‘t’ there.

Nary a week passes when I don’t catch part of a discussion of Utah English (which is really ‘Rocky Mountain English’). The word mountain is often the topic of such discussions. The common pronunciation in the Rockies is either moun’in or mou’in. There are of course segments of the population who would never, ever dream of doing such a thing to the English language. Here is why there isn’t a ‘t’ there: the common idea of letters making up words didn’t exist until literacy became widespread. While human language (a system of sounds to convey meaning) has existed for 40,000 plus years, the earliest writing we know of doesn’t appear until 6600 BC in Jiahu, China.

You see, you can be fluent in your native language and even others while remaining illiterate in those languages. An illiterate speaker isn’t aware that the word mountain contains a ‘t,’ but he has an unconscious understanding that there are only a handful of sounds that can come in the place of what we now symbolize as ‘t.’ Someone may counter, ‘Well, they are clearly not intelligent of competent enough to know.” Okay, and to this I say, “If we take another illiterate speaker from a dialect that says mountain, are they any more or less intelligent or competent than the other? There is no ‘t’ in mountain. I am interested in text linguistics, for what it’s worth.

On another note, Apple is supposed to be a computer company. Instead of releasing the new Intel-based PowerMacs, they release another faulty mouse. If Apple insists on producing mice, then it should know that it has had more than 20 years to manufacture a decent mouse, but has failed.

  1. 4 Responses to “There is No ‘T’ in Mountain.”

  2. We’ve discussed this before, and I still don’t understand why it upsets you so much. Nevertheless, here’s what I think. I don’t know the history of the word or how many times it has changed since it was first transcribed (and I really don’t care), but these days the word describing a natural elevation of the earth’s surface is spelled m-o-u-n-t-a-i-n. The girl (and those whose perspective she represents) is therefore partially right; the letter ‘t’ does undoubtedly appear in the written form of the word. It’s her implication that it should be pronounced regardless of regional dialect that’s wrong. Like you said in that conversation, however, it doesn’t matter. I learned English in Washington, so I think I’m more inclined to pronounce mountain with a ‘t,’ but I won’t suggest that’s any more correct.

    By Daniel on Jul 25, 2006

  3. I am still waiting to find this bang-ET-er highway everyone is talking about. I can find a ban-GERT-er highway, but it has an ‘R’ in it so it can’t be the right one.

    J.

    By J. on Jul 26, 2006

  4. You know, J, my dad is also from New York, and says ‘Bangerter,’ as well. With his influence as well as the influence from my surroundings, I say something in between. I add a weird, rounded vowel in the middle. I don’t know how I would represent that visually right now.

    By Rob on Jul 26, 2006

  5. I just want to know how any one knows how to pronounce Tooele…

    By Caleb on Jul 26, 2006

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